Comments on: The Health Care Debate Continues http://www.leeeldridge.com/the-health-care-debate-continues/ A Bit of Commentary Thu, 26 Jan 2012 02:26:45 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Julie A http://www.leeeldridge.com/the-health-care-debate-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-378 Julie A Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:57:57 +0000 http://www.leeeldridge.com/?p=739#comment-378 In the senate bill there is an option for employers to just pay the govt 8% per year off the top instead of providing provided healthcare on their own. Employers pay an average of 14% right now to provide health care to employees. Employers will be forced to offload their healthcare to the government because its cheaper, and most businesses are struggling just to stay afloat. Once this genie is out of the bottle, it will be all she wrote.... It will be extremely hard to roll back, even when it sucks so bad that everybody hates it. Democrats have also openly admitted that this is just the beginning. (of America's decline....unfortunately) In the senate bill there is an option for employers to just pay the govt 8% per year off the top instead of providing provided healthcare on their own. Employers pay an average of 14% right now to provide health care to employees. Employers will be forced to offload their healthcare to the government because its cheaper, and most businesses are struggling just to stay afloat. Once this genie is out of the bottle, it will be all she wrote…. It will be extremely hard to roll back, even when it sucks so bad that everybody hates it.
Democrats have also openly admitted that this is just the beginning. (of America’s decline….unfortunately)

]]> By: Lee Eldridge http://www.leeeldridge.com/the-health-care-debate-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-377 Lee Eldridge Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:00:36 +0000 http://www.leeeldridge.com/?p=739#comment-377 Andy, sometimes it's about connecting all the dots. Maybe that'll be my next health care post! This is old news, but never got much coverage. Several years ago then state senator Obama talked about wanting a single payer universal health care program, but that it would require steps to get there. Here's his quote: "I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that's what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That's what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we've got to take back the White House, we've got to take back the Senate, and we've got to take back the House." And I think he's doing now EXACTLY what he said he wanted to do back then. Which is working incrementally towards universal health care. The legislation he's pushing is a significant step towards just that. Check this out from Politifact.com. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/16/barack-obama/obama-statements-single-payer-have-changed-bit/ Andy, sometimes it’s about connecting all the dots. Maybe that’ll be my next health care post!

This is old news, but never got much coverage. Several years ago then state senator Obama talked about wanting a single payer universal health care program, but that it would require steps to get there. Here’s his quote:

“I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health care program. I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its gross national product on health care, cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody. And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out. A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That’s what I’d like to see. But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Because first we’ve got to take back the White House, we’ve got to take back the Senate, and we’ve got to take back the House.”

And I think he’s doing now EXACTLY what he said he wanted to do back then. Which is working incrementally towards universal health care. The legislation he’s pushing is a significant step towards just that.

Check this out from Politifact.com.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/16/barack-obama/obama-statements-single-payer-have-changed-bit/

]]> By: andy http://www.leeeldridge.com/the-health-care-debate-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-376 andy Thu, 04 Mar 2010 12:09:54 +0000 http://www.leeeldridge.com/?p=739#comment-376 What makes you so convinced that this is nationalized health care? What makes you so convinced that this is nationalized health care?

]]> By: Bobby http://www.leeeldridge.com/the-health-care-debate-continues/comment-page-1/#comment-375 Bobby Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:54:15 +0000 http://www.leeeldridge.com/?p=739#comment-375 Hey Lee. Like your insights as usual. It's clear that their projections and numbers don't add up. Much of the "cuts" are supposed to come from medicare, which will probably never happen either. And please name for me one big government program that has ever come in on budget. Even the stimulus package is now on pace to cost close to $900 billion. Hey Lee. Like your insights as usual. It’s clear that their projections and numbers don’t add up. Much of the “cuts” are supposed to come from medicare, which will probably never happen either. And please name for me one big government program that has ever come in on budget. Even the stimulus package is now on pace to cost close to $900 billion.

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